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Posted by: BSmurf on Oct 11, 14:39 in response to websch01ar's post got some links?

1). Mitt Romney claims he is not cutting taxes for the wealthy

Romney claimed that his tax plan isn’t a $5 trillion tax cut. However, his own running mate Paul Ryan touted Romney’s 20% tax cut across the board.

Ryan said,
 “And so what we’re saying is, we’re going to lower tax rates for everybody across the board by 20%, and we can pay for that without losing revenue by closing loopholes for people at the top end of the income scale. Everybody gets lower tax rates as a result. And you can keep these preferences for middle class taxpayers and have 20% lower tax rates.” (Link interview to Charlie Sykes radio show interview with Ryan)

2). Romney claimed his tax plan doesn’t raise taxes on the middle class

Mitt Romney claimed that his plan doesn’t raise taxes on middle class. According to the Tax Policy Center regarding Romney’s plan: “The report by the centrist Tax Policy Center found that Romney’s tax cuts would boost after-tax income by an average of 4.1 percent for those earning more than $1 million a year, while reducing by an average of 1.2 percent the after-tax income of individuals earning less than $200,000.” (link to Reuters article)

3). Romney claimed that Obama would increase taxes on the top 3% of “small businesses.”

Romney used some dubious statistics to claim that Obama would raise taxes on small businesses. What Romney didn’t say is that he and the Republican Party have a unique definition of small business. Washington Monthly explored the GOP definition of small business, “Many of those 750,000 small businesses aren’t small at all. Some, like Bechtel Corporation, are positively enormous. The Democratic and Republican figures come from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation. But numerous think tanks and government organizations have examined the data and come to similar conclusions: First, that letting the Bush tax cuts on the top two brackets of “small-business” income would impact a tiny percentage of those businesses; and second, that many of the “small businesses” that would be impacted are actually giant companies — which explains why such a tiny fraction of them can account for half of small business income.” (link is to Washington Monthly)

4). Romney says oil subsidies go to small companies

Romney tried to sell the subsidies for Big Oil as going to small natural gas and coal companies. The truth is that $2.8 billion in subsidies go to the five biggest oil companies. Bil Oil is also allowed to write off all of their drilling costs. (Link to priceofoil.org)

5). Romney said getting rid of the Bush tax cuts will kill jobs

Mitt Romney claimed that if the Bush tax cuts expire for the wealthiest Americans, it will kill jobs. Forbes debunked this myth and concluded that, “But the GOP meme suggesting that tax cuts equals jobs while, conversely, tax increases on the so-called “job creators” mean less work for the rest of us, simply does not survive any reasonable scrutiny. Putting more money in the pockets of the wealthy may create a few jobs for the foreign bankers who get to count the extra money funneled into into the off-shore accounts of the rich, but there is nothing in the way of actual data to support the notion that putting more money into the pockets of the wealthiest Americans will inure to the benefit of those looking for work.” (Link to Forbes.com)

Of course, it's all open to spin and interpretation, and spin they all will.


CST: Roger Ebert's Journal - 'Who Do You Believe - Mitt, Or Your Lyin' Memory?' RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 10, 20:36

Shocking revelations from a left-leaning leftist. {nm} websch01ar Oct 11, 07:03

You are invited to dispute his essay point by point if you wish, but name-calling reveals more about you than him and contributes nothing to BSmurf Oct 11, 08:21

I am happy to dispute point by point, but are you going to read it in full? {nm} websch01ar Oct 11, 08:27

Point 1: Romney Lied websch01ar Oct 11, 08:39

In the quotation, all of the things pointed out were the opposite of what candidate Romney has said for the past 3 years. BUY BONDS 19 Oct 11, 12:34

got some links? {nm} websch01ar Oct 11, 14:01

Quick search found these: BSmurf Oct 11, 14:39

Short Response websch01ar Oct 12, 05:09

MR ROMNEY>....NAME ONE LOOPHOLE....Just one? Be GD Specific for once. BUY BONDS 19 Oct 12, 05:58

Did you read the link to his tax policy? Its in there...Two inside websch01ar Oct 12, 07:01

Eliminating the death tax is not closing a loophole.... it's lowering revenue. BSmurf Oct 12, 09:41

Great...Create new loopholes. .ELIMINATE AMT is a huge tax REDUCTION for the rich. It helps upper middle class, and by BUY BONDS 19 Oct 12, 10:55

Point 2: People are stupid websch01ar Oct 11, 08:43

Point 3: Where was the outrage from the right websch01ar Oct 11, 08:47

Point 4: Obama's Lifelong Principles websch01ar Oct 11, 08:51

I read all 4 of your posts. Comments inside BSmurf Oct 11, 10:01

I agree completely... websch01ar Oct 11, 10:10

I believe that most people agree on ~95% of everything. It's the remaining 5% that we're willing to kill one another over. {nm} BSmurf Oct 11, 10:29

Forgot my IM... BSmurf Oct 11, 10:39

Check out his twitter feed. His bias is well-documented there. {nm} websch01ar Oct 12, 07:38





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