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Questions racemany2k Apr 05, 08:39

((current value + expected gains) / current value) ^ ((1/number of days to realise gain) - 1). Commission costs are 1% {nm} RogerMore Apr 05, 09:14

Or ((Expected value - current value)/current value) / # of days till adjust or cashout if there's no compounding interest involved. {nm} DTravel Apr 05, 20:41

I'm sure there is a thread on this somewhere.... winstonman78 Apr 04, 06:35

Reason why i'm asking is cause i understand that with a Call or Put order you only get the cashout amount on those. {nm} winstonman78 Apr 04, 06:40

You can def tell the N00Bs in this game haha {nm} winstonman78 Apr 04, 06:42

Play nice - you were one also {nm} laura1818 Apr 07, 05:53

what you receive for a shorted stock completely depends on where you shorted it ndmaster Apr 04, 06:44

OK i got it. unlike a call or put order the cashout is $1 per 1 million total. winstonman78 Apr 04, 06:51

I guess if your shorting a stock and its trading below its delist price at the time of delist you better sell it before it halts huh {nm} winstonman78 Apr 04, 06:52

yes, if its further below its delist than commission, then you would make more $$$ {nm} ndmaster Apr 04, 08:30

by covering before delist (damn enter key) {nm} ndmaster Apr 04, 08:30

I am not sure if the question was really answered, so for all of the confused new players, not to mention winstonman78... Buy StarBondFund (EURO too) Apr 04, 23:25

It does thank you very much :) {nm} winstonman78 Apr 05, 06:38

How are starbond adjusts calculated? which 5 movies do they average? are the adjust schedules available anywhere more than a week in advance {nm} NLitend1 Apr 03, 10:58

Here's the thread you need... Let us know if you have further questions that are not addressed here. PVL Admin Apr 03, 16:58

Just wondering: BeastMode Jun 14, 10:46

Limit orders are usually placed after a starbond is halted and before it becomes active again {nm} laujer Apr 03, 07:34

But limit orders can be used for movie stocks as well...and I play them to cash out at certain points... {nm} PVL Admin Apr 03, 16:08

Can someone explain how a "limit order" works and how to correctly post a limit order. SRVE Apr 01, 09:08

Limit orders only work if you are making a profit.. NOT to prevent losses... Flash Apr 01, 10:01

I tried this too and found out the hard way. lol {nm} winstonman78 Apr 01, 10:10

Additionally...here's how you would set a limit order.... Flash Apr 01, 10:10

Great explaination... SRVE Apr 01, 10:34

You're welcome. {nm} Flash Apr 02, 08:23

Another example jane_citizen Apr 01, 16:41

Im confused about your first example jane_citizen winstonman78 Apr 02, 10:04

It wouldn't short it, you would have to later manually sell and then short the stock. DTravel Apr 02, 11:31

sorry! I meant you would set a limit order to short at $15, not to buy jane_citizen Apr 02, 18:03

If this works, I will have learned something. Keep posting, we'll query you if we're confused. Thx {nm} PVL Admin Apr 02, 18:31

yeah, probably test any of my limit order theories with single shares jane_citizen Apr 03, 14:54

Good suggestion. I'll do that. {nm} PVL Admin Apr 03, 22:34

Buying a PUT and when to sell or wait for cashout. winstonman78 Mar 31, 14:00

if you have 20000 $25 put shares that you bought at $1.56 each, and IHOP makes $24 o.w, you would lose jane_citizen Mar 31, 14:28

ok... winstonman78 Mar 31, 14:33

There is good money in the calls and puts ... jane_citizen Mar 31, 14:45

or i guess if it does jump up a lot sell it off and if it comes back down before the deadline and u could possibly make winstonman78 Mar 31, 14:50

yeah, sure ... lotta ifs there though :) {nm} jane_citizen Mar 31, 14:54

In that case if the Shares were worth 38,800 before trading halted, winstonman78 Mar 31, 14:37

yes, absolutely, if you were certain. {nm} jane_citizen Mar 31, 14:51

First YTD account breaks100 MIL! Congratulations OLEGMAX! 3 Months from 2 mil to 100 mil. Great trading. PVL Admin Mar 31, 13:37

3 months?! wow {nm} winstonman78 Mar 31, 13:55

That is sick. Way to go, man. {nm} Austinmh Mar 31, 17:04

Olege Max is quite astute....buy EURO ! {nm} Buy StarBondFund (EURO too) Apr 01, 10:11

thanks guys... i just noticed this post. OlegMaxYTD Apr 01, 13:32

Feel free to take a break :D {nm} PVL Admin Apr 01, 17:07

How did you do it? {nm} Steved1998 Apr 02, 11:24

Question about stock price movement taranev Mar 31, 12:55

I asked the same question here. winstonman78 Mar 31, 14:04

Can't Imagine This Has Not Been Considered, But What About Market Averages (like S&P 500 or Dow Jones) To Gauge Daily HSX Conditions?[nm] DTXbro Mar 30, 19:03

I just asked about this too not long ago! I'd love to see it! {nm} David_Francis Mar 30, 20:01

I think part of the issue is the constant addition and removal of securities. {nm} KaiGee Mar 30, 20:17

I don't understand those in the real world, let alone in HSX but I would love to understand krapnek Mar 31, 04:22

quick lesson.... RazorHawk Mar 31, 09:33

here is something to help you... RazorHawk Mar 31, 10:07

Thats an excellent idea {nm} winstonman78 Mar 31, 13:45

[HOP] over estimated at $25 mil The-EFNP Mar 28, 21:48

Movies don't always need 'star' power to succeed - story plays a big part in success..until a movie actually opens.. it's all speculation. {nm} Flash Mar 29, 09:09

It certainly is speculation, but it's also statistics and reasonable speculations can be made. Hold long if you want... {nm} The-EFNP Mar 29, 21:10

My only thought is that each movie must stand on its own.... Flash Mar 30, 08:34

Long run probably will be decent but what about $25call. winstonman78 Mar 31, 07:51

This of course would mean the shares would still be worth $38,800 when halted. LIke if it halted right now {nm} winstonman78 Mar 31, 07:52

If HOP makes $24 mil, you will lose money. The-EFNP Mar 31, 15:44

WoW i didn't think about that. Makes perfect sense though. {nm} winstonman78 Mar 31, 20:28

And HOP does have a chance to do $24 mill as it'll be opening on 3,700 screens - no speculation there. The-EFNP Mar 31, 15:49

Hope you reversed position in time {nm} JohnTEQP Apr 03, 20:23

What do you guys think is a good stratagy for SPBO2...seems like it should be a good long hold, but i dont wanna see a big drop in my port David_Francis Mar 28, 19:49

If you have the money to to hold it, then hold it. The-EFNP Mar 28, 21:05

Read this... http://www.hsx.com/forum/forum.php?id=2&pid=75575. It should help with your decisions. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 28, 22:33

2 points: project genome is gone and Numbers works again...ignore those comments from 6 months ago {nm} PVL Admin Mar 28, 22:38

I am long SPBO2 JohnTEQP Apr 03, 20:29

Is it me, or does shorting Source Code OW seem like a no brainer? The-EFNP Mar 28, 10:23

Jake = Brokeback mountain. That's why people, on a subconcious level, avoid him. {nm} Biozama Mar 28, 13:37

So, everyone who watches movies is subconsciously homophobic? jane_citizen Mar 28, 22:43

Yeah... I don't think that's it at all... {nm} The-EFNP Mar 29, 21:12

I disagree as well... I've always just seen him as a low rent Tobey MaGuire... {nm} Carcharodon Mar 31, 08:28

Is the Adjust Fund coming back anytime soon? {nm} RedDex's Movie Blog Mar 27, 00:22

NEW Port Value League Level: 1 to 1.5 BILLION PVL Admin Mar 26, 19:05

Havent Played in a long time QUESTION Capstern Mar 26, 14:31

Nope, long gone. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 26, 14:33

wow that serious sucks Capstern Mar 26, 14:35

Hey! I remember you! Welcome back...long time is right! Flash Mar 26, 16:16

Losing money on short stock. Just can't get a break swordfish1 Mar 25, 05:10

I hear you... Flash Mar 25, 09:42

Are you playing with an eye on short term or long term performance fo stocks? (stupid long post part 1) Paul2k Mar 25, 12:27

As for long term performance... (stupid long post part 2) Paul2k Mar 25, 12:57

I think we both feel like... Flash Mar 25, 17:43

Before the recent changes, I played that way...holding long or short and waiting. Mostly holding long. And it didn't really work for me. Paul2k Mar 25, 18:17

totally agree swordfish1 Mar 26, 00:54

I've boosted my Bonds holdings, and it's helped a lot... my port is 4:1 bonds to moviestocks {nm} Chefbobcat Mar 26, 02:42

Bonds are ok but ive been stung too many times swordfish1 Mar 26, 03:22

Having problems as you are, bonds are the first thing you should be into, to turn things around. edzep Mar 26, 04:47

HSX Dude is good but not the end all of strategy.... Buy StarBondFund (EURO too) Mar 26, 13:46

I would consider any StarBond adjusting for a MovieStock in release that's already reported box office short-term. {nm} Antibody Mar 27, 11:08

5:1 here...I've all but given up on the stocks save for the (relatively) sure things. {nm} Ramdadof3 Mar 26, 06:59

Ought to know, but what happens to price on delist of starbond to bucket list? {nm} ladybegood Mar 24, 04:48

If a StarBond is delisted, it cashes out at his/her current TAG. {nm} eyescovered Mar 24, 05:58

TriVia question.... What Movie Fund has the highest current value? (Hint: Not in the top 25 most widely held) Buy StarBondFund (EURO too) Mar 23, 10:56

If I could buy it twice, I would. {nm} Port Value League Admin Mar 23, 13:30

actually, if you look at the individual fund pages, EURO has more holders than #23, 24, & 25, so I don't think the Top 25 is updated often LatinoFund Mar 23, 14:19

That's shares held on the fund pages, not accounts holders. {nm} Antibody Mar 24, 11:26

Usually short the openers today. Not going to. Think the low bo will pick up this week {nm} laujer Mar 20, 12:11

How long does it take for a dead movie stock to adjust to zero and delist? David_Francis Mar 18, 08:14

HSX has to delist them, which they do not announce in advance, but they typically do this twice a year. {nm} ndmaster Mar 18, 08:40

I think it's decided on a case-by-case basis. JohnTEQP Mar 18, 09:17

From 9/8/10: Adam McKay Says ANCHORMAN 2 May Not Be Dead Antibody Mar 22, 14:32

OMG I wish they would make this movie. I LOVED the first one {nm} winstonman78 Apr 04, 19:05



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